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	<title>Comments on: Amrit vs. Various CxO&#8217;s in the press</title>
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		<title>By: amritw</title>
		<link>http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/amrit-vs-various-cxos-in-the-press/#comment-8872</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kevin

I am not disputing the potential for application control to provide additional controls to improve security and protect enterprise desktops, I was more pointing out Pat Clawson&#039;s unstable nature and use of foul language to describe his position. As for Symantec, they may agree that application control should be added as part of the overall endpoint protection platform but there is no way Symantec, McAfee, Trend or the rest of the AV vendors would ever relinquish the cash cow known as AV to make the world a better place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin</p>
<p>I am not disputing the potential for application control to provide additional controls to improve security and protect enterprise desktops, I was more pointing out Pat Clawson&#8217;s unstable nature and use of foul language to describe his position. As for Symantec, they may agree that application control should be added as part of the overall endpoint protection platform but there is no way Symantec, McAfee, Trend or the rest of the AV vendors would ever relinquish the cash cow known as AV to make the world a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: amritw</title>
		<link>http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/amrit-vs-various-cxos-in-the-press/#comment-8871</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris,

There is wide disparity in how organizations structure their networks, implement software (or dat file) distribution points and manage systems and security technologies at the desktop. A flat, centrally managed organization with limited VLAN or switching with tight coupling between software distribution and security technologies will require less infrastructure to support McAfee than an organization that is highly complex and distributed - I am not claiming you are one or the other, however I am relating the experiences of organizations that expressed their environmental issues with such products as a Gartner client or as a BigFix customer. To give some perspective an organization that is abot 10k desktops shy of 33k required 9 ePO servers based on their network architecture, these ePO servers were not tiered and they needed to export data to produce a single report showing AV health status across this segment of their environment. It is not uncommon for most client/server based technologies, whether they be McAfee or others, to require a single server to support between 2,500 and 5,000 machines. Some environments support much more and some support far less - but I think it is safe to say that McAfee&#039;s claims of having the &quot;world&#039;s most scalable solution&quot; is completely false and baseless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>There is wide disparity in how organizations structure their networks, implement software (or dat file) distribution points and manage systems and security technologies at the desktop. A flat, centrally managed organization with limited VLAN or switching with tight coupling between software distribution and security technologies will require less infrastructure to support McAfee than an organization that is highly complex and distributed &#8211; I am not claiming you are one or the other, however I am relating the experiences of organizations that expressed their environmental issues with such products as a Gartner client or as a BigFix customer. To give some perspective an organization that is abot 10k desktops shy of 33k required 9 ePO servers based on their network architecture, these ePO servers were not tiered and they needed to export data to produce a single report showing AV health status across this segment of their environment. It is not uncommon for most client/server based technologies, whether they be McAfee or others, to require a single server to support between 2,500 and 5,000 machines. Some environments support much more and some support far less &#8211; but I think it is safe to say that McAfee&#8217;s claims of having the &#8220;world&#8217;s most scalable solution&#8221; is completely false and baseless.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Buono</title>
		<link>http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/amrit-vs-various-cxos-in-the-press/#comment-8840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Buono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wholeheartedly agree with your first three paragraphs, but I must point out that I&#039;ve been running ePO v3.x for nearly five years, and I have two (2) ePO servers serving ~33,000 endpoints with no issues of scalability. Something about your examples doesn&#039;t smell right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with your first three paragraphs, but I must point out that I&#8217;ve been running ePO v3.x for nearly five years, and I have two (2) ePO servers serving ~33,000 endpoints with no issues of scalability. Something about your examples doesn&#8217;t smell right.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least one person at Symantec appears to have similar views to Clawson, judging from these two recent articles.

http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/News/d8f38eab-0ab9-41e6-b68d-cebc7db176b3.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tech/privacy/white-list.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least one person at Symantec appears to have similar views to Clawson, judging from these two recent articles.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/News/d8f38eab-0ab9-41e6-b68d-cebc7db176b3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/News/d8f38eab-0ab9-41e6-b68d-cebc7db176b3.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tech/privacy/white-list.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tech/privacy/white-list.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: amritw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amritw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clawson is a bit of a loose cannon, aside from his history of cursing to journalists, which is usually a sign of a small minded individual that is unable to find other methods to communicate their position, what small company announces in a press release that they are going IPO?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clawson is a bit of a loose cannon, aside from his history of cursing to journalists, which is usually a sign of a small minded individual that is unable to find other methods to communicate their position, what small company announces in a press release that they are going IPO?</p>
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		<title>By: alan shimel</title>
		<link>http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/amrit-vs-various-cxos-in-the-press/#comment-8668</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alan shimel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amrit - funny stuff.  I especially like the formerly known as one.  Maybe they should have picked a symbol to use.  Tell us more about EPO though.  Come on, stop dropping threatening hints and come clean!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amrit &#8211; funny stuff.  I especially like the formerly known as one.  Maybe they should have picked a symbol to use.  Tell us more about EPO though.  Come on, stop dropping threatening hints and come clean!</p>
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